Please tell me what YOU ARE thinking. Thats the thing, though. Well, its one example. The phrase always brings her to mind. Words only mean things in their contexts, though. Make sense?. +1. I got needfulled a couple of times before I went to investigate the thing. He wasnt wrong. I guess I always thought of it as similar to Thanks for reading this e-mail or something. so once they agree to speak, i send the email to all the speakers with all the additional tasks, and say thank you in advance, as an acknowledgement of all the things i just told them to do. Please advise. I agree that using it the opposite way irritates. But seriously? Or something to that effect. Agreed. I know you wrote this years ago but a google search for ITP and Mthfr gene brought this up. I am so flummoxed by the OPs overly negative reaction to this. It has been an awesome way to improve my English skills. If you're on the conservative side, you may want to just take my word for it. We have enjoyed serving you for the past five years. They also like to use gentle reminder and thanks in advance. Just had an email saying another comment had been left. Yes the way it grates on me is when I get a message that says please advise, I take time to actually give a suggestion or remedy, and then either hear nothing or find out that they did whatever they wanted anyway without actually listening to my advice. I would definitely let this one go.. Please advise rubs me the wrong way, too. Please advise. ", This a great. Input your text below. And you could argue that business email is its own special little dialect. ", The most useful app that I have ever found.I truly appreciate your efforts. How should I handle your request? That comes off as way more snarky/passive-agressive than please advise. Conjugacin Documents Diccionario Diccionario Colaborativo Gramtica Expressio Reverso Corporate. Quick is fine, its the gentle. Like Im reminding you in a gentle way, when you know its really not. (I wont get into the aggravating colleague who copies the boss on EVERY (sorry for the shouty capitals) email exchange between us, which is another reason why my emails resemble business letters I look more professional than she. I delete it from their email before responding. This will save me on average X amount of time per day. Now his bosses, they hated it. A complete search of the internet has found these results: Please let me know which one you preferis the most popular phrase on the web. As you read through them ask yourself two simple questions: 1. Ive been using it to mean HALP, but it seems that in other places its more like Do the thing already! I do too! Exactly. Please let me know when it is complete. . We wouldnt say Please advise out loud, because we know how it sounds. Such a pet peeve of mine! ! I would be happy to hear irritating, stupid stuff all day, if I was getting paid. s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. I counted 154 times in one period. YES!!! Id never used the phrase please advise at the end of an e-mail until Current Job. Example Answer #2 I am available to work Monday through Friday, and I am very flexible about the start and end times on those days. Ie, if youre reading along and you encounter a word you dont understand, you drop everything and look it up, right then and there. When I see it, I always remind myself that, irritating though that phrase is, the writers proficiency in English is much better than my proficiency in the writers native language. I always read it like shes yodeling at me. My grandmother (who was born in 1912 in Oklahoma) once said at a family buffet dinner, My lands, shouldnt we serve the menfolk first? because people were lining up to fill their plates. my boyfriends manager told me I could date someone better, new CEO keeps talking about diet and exercise, coworker asks me to cover for him when hes not really off, and more. You can just say, That doesnt go away when its something that needs to be considered at a higher level. If the e-mail is sent out to a distribution list (scenario Im envisioning) its hard to think of any circumstance where it would be appropriate to reply all. if you would prefer. or Request you to note the dates and let us know way forward. Thank you. or Hi, just following up if X and Y has been done yet? This is the sixth call this week that Ive had from someone selling architectural features. Answer (1 of 21): It's grammatically fine but meaningless. Ugh, I cried once at work and ever since, my manager always sends me gentle reminders whenever I make an error. Thanks! Its so delightfully vague! if (w.addEventListener) { Yes, I have lots of thoughts about this. Because signing off with NOW WHAT PLEASE HELP MEEEE would be inappropriate. Today more than 1001 people got their English checked. I dont need to be reminded in the next sentence to please advise. I dont think the IM itself is what AMG is referring to its when the person IMing then wants you to be the one to call them, even though theyre the one who wants something. That makes sense to me. You could just say its a reminder without qualifiers. "Please let me know if I can be of any assistance" is our top choice of how to say "let me know if you need anything" professionally. In my job, emails are often used as official business communiques. I also get gentle reminder emails and never take offense. So now it causes a twitch when others use it, but I know its all on me. If I didnt have please advise to fall back on, Id have to quit my job. Sorry that came across as rude. is far gentler and is a little more personal if you must put something at the end of the query. I am reflecting that the phrase I hate to be a pest, but can also come off as passive aggressive. if you will. To me the phrase comes off a bit condescending. I use it fairly frequently, usually in a context like this: We have a situation with the chocolate teapots. Yes, sounds good to me. Its not unreasonable to say that stuff, except for Can I ask you a question? because (a) YOU JUST DID, and (b) I am categorically unallowed to tell you you cant ask! whether you prefer. In which case the Please advise is their action item. I dont mind like Please advise when Boss is available, etc. Please let me know your preferred way of dealing with this. Of course, Id try to say it more diplomatically. Its fine that you personally dont like it, but its not passive aggressive and I am not sure where you get the impression that it almost always is. complimentary close! Me too. if its not a foregone conclusion, then no i wouldnt thank them in advance, because that wouldnt make sense. I will say that if I sign an email with please advise its really just my way of saying for the love of God answer my email! I like it because they might actually need something before they complete and return the thing I need; if not, its a memory jog that doesnt automatically assume theyre not on the ball. how do you handle being pregnant at work? Running errands: I have to get the needful done. TIA! which was infuriating. I thought text is edit by machine, but it's real editor.Stunning! Let me know if I can be of any help. It simply means, Hey, I would like your input on this. Otherwise, the recipient might just think its an FYI email. I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). Sometimes Id be copied in as a courtesy, other times someone was expecting an answer from me, and sometimes I was supposed to understand that I should NOT reply even if I knew the answer (because of the political implications of the message, the people on the email chain, etc.). single. No one is demanding that you stop holding up an important project more like, I would like to take my break today at 5 instead of 6. Want more FREE revisions? Thats a GREAT post, and the comments under it are even better. Im still unconvinced that it is bad form. For me, I always feel weird finishing the body of the email with my question. Shes lovely, but I dont like the phrase. I think Ive probably written Thanks so much in advance too but more when its part of a longer exchange where the other person has already suggested the thing Im now saying Yes, please do that to, not just cold. Except with the way you worded it, youre implying that your boss *has* to go with one of the three options you came up with as opposed to coming up with their own idea. I wonder what would happen if you just said no to Can I ask you a question for a few days. I hate it when someone comes to me and just says here are three options, which do you want? without providing any of their thoughts on it. Theyve usually established themselves as ineffective and rude, and in those cases, nothing they say will be not-annoying :), Yes! use greater than/less than, not parentheses. Possibly in red Killer font. Please advise is one of a handful of conventions I use to (hopefully) make my emails easier to read, especially if it is necessary to include a lot of detail in the body: Subject line that indicates what the recipient should do with the email FYI, Action required, Question about chocolate teapot spout training, Advice on incorporating milk chocolate in redesigned teapots, etc. I can definitely think of specific people who only use please advise in the negative context. What else was I supposed to say? Shed been told about that by other staff, so I reminded her of that event, and then said, this is one reason the parking procedure was put in place. Also, just the sheer volume of email I got made it necessary to adopt some kind of triage system, and people who plainly asked for what they wanted from me always got priority. But I genuinely DO hate pestering people. Assuming this is really the only issue the OP has with her people shes their manager, she can tell them what to do. If you're looking for a complete and built-in experience on your smartphone, you must take a glance at Emerald Chat mobile on your browser of selection. oh, thats a good clarifying point. They are synonymous phrases, so sure, but I like please advise better. Hey boss, just an FYI to keep you in the loop, blah blah blah.. My current manager is really fond of the smiley faces in outlook, so I have a rule button that replies to messages with just a smiley face. I want to know the context of the meeting so I can prepare for it. = Question Please tell me what you LIKE. Yes, just a little reminder at the end of the email that you cant proceed without input. I was already going to do the needful. Like us on Facebook by clicking the like button below: Share TextRanch on Facebook by clicking on the button below. I like my subject lines clear and concise so I can quickly find it while quickly browsing in my archives. She would ask why I hadnt responded or done X yet, and I would say that I didnt know that I needed to. I like the sentiment; the phrase just seems so grammatically tortured that I wonder how and why its caught on. Like, if Im asking my manager a question, Id say Hey manager, this is the thing thats happening, what do you want me to do with that? but if I was emailing the CEO with a variety of other senior staff copied, Id say Here is the situation please advise. I could see how it might seem snotty when used in a situation that doesnt call for it, like youre being faux respectful. Ive also been using it fairly often as well. w.attachEvent("onload", loader); Someone who criticizes popular characters or plot elements is often accused of having overanalyzed or misread or deliberately subverted the obvious real story when they were just expressing their instinctive responses. papenfuss. If I do that Id feel really small and incompetent. Or at the very least tell him what I think needs to be done, and just ask for his sign-off that its ok. Thanks! Love the feedback from the editor. It just sounds sojerky. I admit Ive never heard of this interpretation of that closing. To me, please advise means please write back something. I admit that I have a visceral reaction to the use of the words please advise (and ALL CAPS and soft reminders and read receipts). How may I help you? or even Next in line, please., I have fortunately never heard that phrase , but I suspect that somewhere along the way Whos next? got combined with I can take/help the next customer in line (or something similar), Ok, I can see that. You might consider using "would be" instead of "is", as well, since the conditional is often more polite than the declarative. I guess they could say, Can I help the person who is next? But that, while grammatical, still sounds odd. How about Friendly reminder? 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